What is Creative Industries?


On our latest podcast episode I got to sit down with two of my creative friends Tracey & Grace to talk all things creative. We chat about everything from inclusion, gender pay gap, misconceptions off what it means to be creative, and great leaders we can learn from.

Read an excerpt from our chat, and listen to the full episode above or tune in on Apple, Spotify, Google, and Overcast.

Leanne: Can you share a little bit about who you are, your passion, and your experience within the creative industry?

Grace: “Perfect” 

Tracey: Thanks for having us, we’re excited to be here.” "We're doing that very polite woman supporting who speaks first right now. Grace, do you want to go first?"  


Grace: “Sure, I’m from Ireland originally and I'm currently in Portugal but Oxford is my hometown. I mainly work in online book publishing. I do lots of interviews and kind of advertising and marketing for those and project management; and also film editing. I do everything, I’m a one-woman shop, from reading to editing to writing and I love it. I feel very very lucky.”

Tracey: “I also work in publishing that in communications and that's my main job, but also on the side I'm an actor-writer and singer-musician funny enough mate Grace on a film set 7 years ago now and we’ve just become friends.” 


Leanne: “I want to ask which film set did you guys meet on? 


Grace:Let Nothing You Dismay and we just clicked instantly. We’ve worked on many projects since and have helped each other creatively. I was just thinking about how much I use Tracey as a sounding board for ideas and networking, and I hope she feels the same way.”

Tracey: “I think that’s the thing about being in the creative industry. You never know who you are going to meet both personal friends as well as professional contacts. Leanne, the same. We met through my publishing day job and we really hit it off, and you just kind of join all these dots and it’s so great to see women supporting each other. It warms my heart.”


 Leanne: “I thought I would start today with a little introduction and discussion about what falls under the term creative industries. I think using the word creative can be very open to interpretation. We might automatically go to writing, art, or creative subjects in music for example when we think about the definition of creative. 

Tracey: I’ve been thinking about this a lot earlier when I was mentally preparing for the podcast. I think the word Industries is an interesting term because you can be in a creative job that is not in an industry that would be traditionally thought of as a creative industry job. To me, it's actually about that cognitive process. It’s about, are you doing something that’s repetition, by vote, or by instruction. Are you thinking of creative problem-solving? Are you coming up with solutions that can apply to so many industries, and I've got a friend who’s a mathematician and I think “that’s actually a really creative thought process.” Thinking completely different in so many ways. I think the job of being creative is a different thing to how we generally use the term industry. Which is a bit more of that stereotypical... like you humanities, arts-based, performance-based.

Grace: “Yeah. I love that and so I think that's an interesting perspective on it for me because I think creativity is the closest thing we have to kind of being human that's why we love art so much. Telling you stories and so important to see ourselves and because that's how we make out of the amount of information. Then in that, as Tracy was saying, adding that to industry which is so just juxtaposed and the creative industries which are probably the least humane Industries, thinking of the me too movement and so on. It’s interesting that crazy juxtaposition between the two, you have to make yourself so vulnerable to make really good art in an industry that is trying to eat you alive, it feels like.  

I like to think if you call yourself creative then you are. I like to think artists own their art at this point. You know you go back to “Fountain" by Marcel Duchamp his name and how he decided this was art. It was a piece of ready-made art because he chose it, and I like to let the artist decide what art is...

To listen to the full episode scroll to the top or check out our YouTube channel and get behind the scenes footage on all things Frame Your World.

Discover more about our podcast guests today by checking out Tracey's blog Break The Mould and Grace's website Falling Gracefully for a glimpse into some of the amazing videography that Grace has produced.




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